think about the order of language in the joke..the sequence of events reveals the positions each of the character fill especially with regard to the ammount of information they have. This corresponds to the symmetry of the bed rearding the power of each character (information= power ?) think about the implict homoerotic undertone of male bonding..the fact that it was a 'Guy's trip'. Is there subconcious desire? Is this bed a trap? Also the idea of the poles as an extension of the body requalified as a part of the body. Marshall McLuhan (although a little outdated, he is stil relevant)wrote extensively about objects of media as extensions of the body, and what the cultural significance of that is. Also, the Third Gender topic seemed to be apropriate.. some words i wrote down: transparency, absent-active particpant, mechanism of revealing sheet, non-gender parties, disguise,bind
i like the play in symmetry/asymetry of the joke. What about having all the information in the transition between setup and punchline? And this idea of the secret: dreams are secret according to Freud and so is your "down there" in relation to other parts of your body- especially if you want to go the way of the homoeroticism, think "closeted". Which all this kind of rides on what marc said about "trace"- and how traces create layering. layering like layers of sheets in a bed. layers to the meaning of this joke. Layering vs. delamination and asymetry to symetry are words/concepts i think of when thinking about your joke
as the bed is re'dressed'...(the sheets are changed)... perhaps a line is drawn... is this 'drawn' line the course of the skier down the slope... is this a giant slalom?
Here are the notes I took from your review, the suggestions, etc - they're short-hand, but they should be easy to decipher. - gender politics - implicit - male bonding/homo-eroticism - third man becomes the "other" - creates symmetry and differences - spatially-subtle gradation between power and symmetry - bed could become a disguise or a trap/bind - becomes a trap for their underlying homo-eroticism - go back to the diagram as an example - qualities of the handles, positioning, etc. (really effective) - joke is moving toward androgeny apparent in 3rd man's perception of situation (non-sexual/third gender) - sport vs. sex act - book - "third gender" from zone books
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think about the order of language in the joke..the sequence of events reveals the positions each of the character fill especially with regard to the ammount of information they have. This corresponds to the symmetry of the bed rearding the power of each character (information= power ?)
think about the implict homoerotic undertone of male bonding..the fact that it was a 'Guy's trip'. Is there subconcious desire? Is this bed a trap?
Also the idea of the poles as an extension of the body requalified as a part of the body. Marshall McLuhan (although a little outdated, he is stil relevant)wrote extensively about objects of media as extensions of the body, and what the cultural significance of that is.
Also, the Third Gender topic seemed to be apropriate..
some words i wrote down: transparency, absent-active particpant, mechanism of revealing sheet, non-gender parties, disguise,bind
may be the sheet is drawn (as pencil on paper, skis in the snow) upon as it is drawn (like a roll up blind?)
1.leaving a trace of the inferred experience...
2.the formal qualities
3.drawing from the past to project this new 'third'
ski trip/trap?
as kimberly said...
i like the play in symmetry/asymetry of the joke. What about having all the information in the transition between setup and punchline? And this idea of the secret: dreams are secret according to Freud and so is your "down there" in relation to other parts of your body- especially if you want to go the way of the homoeroticism, think "closeted".
Which all this kind of rides on what marc said about "trace"- and how traces create layering. layering like layers of sheets in a bed. layers to the meaning of this joke.
Layering vs. delamination and asymetry to symetry are words/concepts i think of when thinking about your joke
as the bed is re'dressed'...(the sheets are changed)...
perhaps a line is drawn...
is this 'drawn' line the course of the skier down the slope...
is this a giant slalom?
bed sheet as map...
Here are the notes I took from your review, the suggestions, etc - they're short-hand, but they should be easy to decipher.
- gender politics - implicit - male bonding/homo-eroticism
- third man becomes the "other" - creates symmetry and differences
- spatially-subtle gradation between power and symmetry
- bed could become a disguise or a trap/bind - becomes a trap for their underlying homo-eroticism
- go back to the diagram as an example - qualities of the handles, positioning, etc. (really effective)
- joke is moving toward androgeny apparent in 3rd man's perception of situation (non-sexual/third gender)
- sport vs. sex act
- book - "third gender" from zone books
Notes I wrote from the last review:
Male body relationship
Symmetry differences
Power, Differences, Similarity
Subconscious
Desire of three men
Homosexuality
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