the idea of the revolving door is intersting and suggests spatial qualities but the problem is that its not accurate enough to your individual joke. that is where the associations and being more literal offer u a smoother and better way of communicating your joke.
also, i feel like the jump from night time and sleeping into a door might be too quick. maybe u should situate the viewer in a much more simpler place where he doesnt need to understand your personal interpetation first,in order to get it...
by the end of the dicussion the other day i believe you chose the Groucho joke to move on with..if that's correct i agree with Adi that the door is not an architectural element that i would immediately associate with the joke. Although, i do understand the function of the revolving door and the way that you have sealed it. I think you should get everyone's associations to help you be more specific to the joke..someone also mentioned Fantasia- the movie, not the singer
i'm sorry...but i honestly think the mop bucket joke has more potential for spatial translation and a stronger philosophical basis for layering information...theres just so much more to work with- the switch between two objects, the physical engagement, the idea of power and level of awareness
i think that irene might be right and perhaps, since you havent looked deeply into ay of them and you based your decision of what joke to go with only on feedbacks, then you should give that a try to, to evaluate which one has more potential...
Manny: I agree with Adi and Irene about the door... although perhaps the concepts behind it may be worth investigating at a deeper level.
I think if you are going with the Groucho Marx joke, I would think that you would have to look into optical illusions. Because "How did the elephant get in there?" its a conundrum of space. its a non-sequitor. Thats what makes the joke funny. its absurdity, its contrast of two unrelated conditions brought together by one sentence. In a Marx joke, I think it would help to look at delivery of the joke, and tone perhaps that will help you decode some of the spatial information, such as sequencing.
here are comments from the review: - images in a zoatrope - pushing, rotating, deceiving - revolving door - what does it have to do with the joke? where are the pj's? where is the elephant? - could possibly be any joke at this point, needs to be more specific - in/out - "in" being operative word - critical...look at operative words and perception - absurdity needs to be inherent in the structure
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you need to go thru a free association exercise with the class...do this...
the idea of the revolving door is intersting and suggests spatial qualities but the problem is that its not accurate enough to your individual joke.
that is where the associations and being more literal offer u a smoother and better way of communicating your joke.
also, i feel like the jump from night time and sleeping into a door might be too quick. maybe u should situate the viewer in a much more simpler place where he doesnt need to understand your personal interpetation first,in order to get it...
by the end of the dicussion the other day i believe you chose the Groucho joke to move on with..if that's correct i agree with Adi that the door is not an architectural element that i would immediately associate with the joke. Although, i do understand the function of the revolving door and the way that you have sealed it. I think you should get everyone's associations to help you be more specific to the joke..someone also mentioned Fantasia- the movie, not the singer
IN, elephant, pajamas,wear, night, bed, safari, jungle, juxtaposition, shoot, shot, wound, violence, flip, perception, ivory, sleep, know, knowledge, forget, elephants don't forget
i'm sorry...but i honestly think the mop bucket joke has more potential for spatial translation and a stronger philosophical basis for layering information...theres just so much more to work with- the switch between two objects, the physical engagement, the idea of power and level of awareness
what do you guys think?
i think that irene might be right and perhaps, since you havent looked deeply into ay of them and you based your decision of what joke to go with only on feedbacks, then you should give that a try to, to evaluate which one has more potential...
manny?
what do you think..?
kimberly's list is good...
what about the other joke?
Manny:
I agree with Adi and Irene about the door... although perhaps the concepts behind it may be worth investigating at a deeper level.
I think if you are going with the Groucho Marx joke, I would think that you would have to look into optical illusions. Because "How did the elephant get in there?" its a conundrum of space. its a non-sequitor. Thats what makes the joke funny. its absurdity, its contrast of two unrelated conditions brought together by one sentence.
In a Marx joke, I think it would help to look at delivery of the joke, and tone perhaps that will help you decode some of the spatial information, such as sequencing.
fix the diagram.
it is a representation right now...
you need structure...
a matrix...
here are comments from the review:
- images in a zoatrope - pushing, rotating, deceiving
- revolving door - what does it have to do with the joke? where are the pj's? where is the elephant?
- could possibly be any joke at this point, needs to be more specific
- in/out - "in" being operative word - critical...look at operative words and perception
- absurdity needs to be inherent in the structure
switch jokes if you are stuck for too long...go to the bucket.
Hey guys, thanks for the comments. I didn't really have anything to write as a reply because I was considering all that was said.
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